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posted: 29 Jun 2014 16:35 from: renluethi
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Hi Martin, With Templot 2.09 I have printing problems. When printing in portrait mode, the left side of the printed frame is 278.5 mm long and the right side of the frame has 279 mm, and the whole printout is trapezoidal distorted accordingly. The horizontal sides of the frame have the same length. In April my old PC with Windows 2000 and Templot 91c crashed, it was a Motherboard failure. Now I have a new Motherboard and have Win 7/64 and Templot 2.09 installed. The printer is a Canon IP5200 and still the same. Under W2k the prints were very precise and stitching 3-meter long track planes together was easy, at the ends the difference was normally within the thickness of the frame line. With the prints off Win 7, I have difficulties to stitch together a single turnout, which stretches over three sheets. The difference amounts to more than the wide of the railhead already! Assembling Complex track work is very unreliable at best. The other problem is less bothering. If real > rails > head and foot is checked, the foots get printed, even when output > output drawing options > element options > rail-foot edges on flat-bottom rails are unchecked. Does the selection in the output menu not override the other selections? Do you have a suggestion how to tackle the first problem? It would be greatly appreciated. René. |
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posted: 1 Jul 2014 03:24 from: TCLyth click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Rene, Have you done a printer calibration in Templot 2.09/Win7x64? Regards, Tim Lyth |
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posted: 1 Jul 2014 10:59 from: Martin Wynne
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Hi René, I think this must be a mechanical problem in the printer rather than software. Is the printer standing firm on a flat surface? Is there any contamination on the feed roller, such as dried ink? Do you get the same result with other drawing programs? Templot does have a set of "data distortion" functions to try to correct for a worn or damaged printer, which you may like to try. You can find them here: 2_010539_470000000.png  From your description I think the X-coning correction is the one to try. Note that the track drawing is affected but not the the grid lines and trim margins, so you should use the rails to align the pages. I haven't tried or tested these functions for years, they may or may not be any help. It will be trial and error to get the desired result. There are detailed help notes on the dialogs. Thanks for reporting the rail-foot printing issue.  It's a bug. I will fix it in the next program update. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 1 Jul 2014 14:49 from: renluethi
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Tim, The printer is calibrated. To get the bars of the proof sheet exactly, I have to measure the frame on the calibration test sheet in the middle, then the discrepancy is equal to both sides. If the frame of the test sheet is measured along one side, then the discrepancy is doubled on the other side. Regards, René. |
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posted: 1 Jul 2014 16:16 from: renluethi
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Hi Martin, Thank you for your answer, I will play with these functions this evening. The last job with the Win 2000 was a Templot print job and I was surprised (as ever) of the precision of the sheets. Then I broke down and set up the PC within 5 weeks and little printing. Assuming the printer is worn out (I find it rare tough) and the paper is fed faster on one side, I guess the printed purple boarders would be bent, but these are precisely straight. I have no other drawing program in use, hence no possibility to compare. I want to try the functions that Templot has on board and report the results. Regards, René |
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posted: 2 Jul 2014 19:49 from: renluethi
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Hi Martin, Problem solved. Canon offers a diagnose tool for download. This tool showed a wrong printer driver installed, a BIJ driver instead of the IP5200 driver. Don’t ask how that happens, and in spite of that, the printer was everywhere declared as IP5200. Now lets go track lying, a part of the yard throat including nine turnouts and a single slip are waiting. Thank you for wading into the problem. Regards, René. |
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posted: 2 Jul 2014 20:42 from: Martin Wynne
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Hi René, I'm glad you solved it, thanks for letting me know. I am a bit puzzled how a printer driver would cause the effect you describe -- the print head must be moving across while the roller is turning. Maybe that's a standard feature nowadays.  On with the trackbuilding.  regards, Martin. |
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