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posted: 10 Dec 2007 00:46 from: grahambeare click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
In the very recent past there has been a posting with a link to either a S4 or a CLAG site which details the planing lengths of the various switch blade types. I cannot remember enough of either the posting or of the link to find that data, might anyone else remember where the information can be found? Thank you |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 02:31 from: Martin Wynne
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grahambeare wrote: In the very recent past there has been a posting with a link to either a S4 or a CLAG site which details the planing lengths of the various switch blade types. I cannot remember enough of either the posting or of the link to find that data, might anyone else remember where the information can be found?Hi Graham, Right here in the Templot docs:  http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_realtrack.htm http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_realtrack.htm#split_switch regards, Martin. |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 02:40 from: Martin Wynne
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I wrote: Right here in the Templot docs:And not only there, but all the information you want is under your nose in Templot itself. Here's a Jing video showing how to find it: http://screencast.com/t/Ry0zyud0 I spend hours writing this stuff and I do sometimes wonder why I bother?  regards, Martin. |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 03:42 from: grahambeare click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Thank you for pointing me to the information that I requested - although I do not recall the item being within the context that is provided by your link. Graham. Martin Wynne wrote: I wrote:Right here in the Templot docs:And not only there, but all the information you want is under your nose in Templot itself. |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 03:58 from: Martin Wynne
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grahambeare wrote: Thank you for pointing me to the information that I requested - although I do not recall the item being within the context that is provided by your link.Hi Graham, You've lost me there.  Sorry I was a bit bad-tempered earlier. If you need more information about switches please let me know.regards, Martin. |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 15:45 from: Brian Lewis
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Martin Wynne wrote: I spend hours writing this stuff and I do sometimes wonder why I bother?Yes - but the problem is finding it. Having been involved with mechanical plant for most of my working life I know well that the way to put information into someone's hands is in the form of 'How to...'questions and answers. And it has to be in paper form. Any writer of software help files will tell you that folk dislike looking this up in the program and would much rather read from a book. Just go to a good book store and see how much space is devoted to the computer section. Just think of the number of times you have been asked questions such as, "How do I scan a map into Templot, How do I shove timbers, etc." Put it into booklet form and the answer is on everyone's desk. Something like an A5 booklet of anything up to 36 pages would be the way forward. I made you an offer once. 'You provide the information and I would publish the booklet'. That offer still stands. Regards Brian Lewis |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 16:26 from: Martin Wynne
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Brian Lewis wrote: Yes - but the problem is finding it.Hi Brian, I do not see the difficulty in finding it. The Templot site has a Search box. I entered planing length and the first result in the list is the page to which I directed Graham. That's a long page, so instead of scrolling you can if you wish do CTRL-F on the page and quickly find planing length again. I also entered railway track switch planing length in Google, and guess which page came out top of the results? And it has to be in paper form.I'm not going to produce the Templot docs in any format which can't be updated as I develop the program. So printed paper is out, sorry, until Templot is finished. It's very easy to print it out yourself if you need it printed, and some parts of the Templot web site are available in PDF format for that very purpose. The latest version 091b of Templot has an updated viewer for the Help texts, which also includes improved printing functions. It's very clear from feedback that most users prefer the video format for learning about Templot. So my time and effort will be directed towards that for the immediate future, rather than writing a book. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then 15 pictures per second has to be worth millions of 'em. My irritation with Graham, for which I've apologised and do so again, was not that he asked for information -- which I'm very happy to provide. It was his assumption that he should look elsewhere than the Templot docs for the information. They don't contain everything, far from it, but it is the obvious first place to look for stuff relating to Templot. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 16:47 from: Martin Wynne
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Just to add to that, I've recently updated the page listing the Templot videos. It's at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/video_list.htm And there is also a beginner's video showing how to print your first template, and the printed result, at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/startup/startup_em.html regards, Martin. |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 16:59 from: Brian Lewis
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Oh. I have no argument concerning the videos........ err..... if there was a printed index to all of them. (A sort of 'How to find what you want to find, perhaps'). Regards Brian Lewis |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 17:10 from: Martin Wynne
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Brian Lewis wrote: Oh. I have no argument concerning the videos........ err..... if there was a printed index to all of them. (A sort of 'How to find what you want to find, perhaps').Hi Brian, Well it's easy enough to print out the video list from: http://www.templot.com/martweb/video_list.htm but I agree that more detailed descriptions of the video content would help. Also the list has developed in response to user questions without any overall plan or scheme. Now that it's clear that video is the preferred format, that needs to be sorted out. The same list is available on these forum pages at: http://85a.co.uk/forum/view_forum.php?id=8 and is currently showing as having been viewed 1,112 times. So obviously someone managed to find it! regards, Martin. |
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posted: 10 Dec 2007 19:23 from: Brian Lewis
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Martin Wynne wrote: Well it's easy enough to print out the video list from:Bless you Martin. I have now added this to my Thunderbird Bookmark Toolbar. Special thanks for the 'hard hat' icon. So many of the Toolbar bookmarks are the standard 'vanilla'. Folk are missing an opportunity if they do not allocate a special icon. Regards Brian Lewis |
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posted: 11 Dec 2007 02:01 from: BeamEnds click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Martin Wynne wrote: Just to add to that,I wonder if it's a generation/job sort of thing - having worked in software for some years, in between having interesting jobs ;-) I've got in the habit Googling/Searching first and seeing what happens... I did quite a lot of vehicle diagnostics (which must be the ulitimate help system) at one time, and we found the same as you when testing on potential end users - whatever you do, 30% or so will tell you it's not how they would do it. If you do it as finite state machine, i.e. covering every possible outcome of every choice, the same 30% get a snot on and won't use it at all, muttering about "Granny" and ""eggs" etc. You can't win! Just do your own thing as you see best! Keep up the good work! Cheers Richard |
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posted: 11 Dec 2007 02:39 from: Cynric Williams click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
BeamEnds wrote:[I wonder if it's a generation/job sort of thing - having worked in software for some years, in between having interesting jobs ;-) I've got in the habit Googling/Searching first and seeing what happens... You are right. I have found the same thing in several jobs. we found similar things when we stopped using email groups and went to forums for support matters. younger users adapted much faster, not that I am suggesting that Templot users are old  |
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posted: 11 Dec 2007 03:34 from: John Lewis
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Martin Wynne wrote: The same list is available on these forum pages at: And has looked at it pretty regularly. John |
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