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topic: 3543Contingency planning
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posted: 5 Nov 2019 18:42

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Once you start thinking about that errant bus, all sorts of possibilities come to mind. Suppose it gets the data centre in Ohio in its sights?

I shall have to start thinking about how best to ensure the long-term safety of the database behind Templot Club and the rest of the Templot web site. There is a lot of it after all these years.  :?

As a first step I have created a PDF of the entire Templot Companion:

 http://templot.com/contingency/templot_companion_nov_2019.pdf

If several folks download this (18MB), it's likely that someone somewhere would have a copy which could be uploaded somewhere else if ever the need arose.

I will try to keep it updated.

It's scruffy and intended only as a backup to the web site -- I haven't tried to create a neat publication. I set the page length as long as possible to avoid too many breaks in reading, which means there is a lot of blank space in the first few pages.

The entries on the contents list should be clickable to go to the relevant pages, and most of the links within it should work, depending on the mood your PDF reader program is in.

What it does do is make it only too clear how much remains to be done on there. One day.

cheers,

Martin.

posted: 5 Nov 2019 20:45

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Rob Manchester
 
Manchester - United Kingdom

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Hello Martin,

Good idea. I have downloaded the Companion PDF and saved it in my cloud storage.

I would like to nominate 5.13.1 - partial templates to go on the NOD list. A few people ask me how they work and I always worry that I am not confident in their use :(

Can all the Forum posts be backed up ? I think there may be an awful lot of data there but it forms a very valuable reference.

Lets not get too paranoid though - as you quite correctly say it is only model railway track :)

Rob


posted: 5 Nov 2019 21:46

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Martin Wynne
 
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Rob Manchester wrote:
I would like to nominate 5.13.1 - partial templates to go on the NOD list. A few people ask me how they work and I always worry that I am not confident in their use :(

Can all the Forum posts be backed up ? I think there may be an awful lot of data there but it forms a very valuable reference.
Hi Rob,

Many thanks for saving the PDF. That bus surely can't get both of us at the same time. :)

Alan asked recently about partial templates for his irregular outside-slip. I recall writing something quite recently and making a bit of video, but I can't find it. :?

In the meantime here is a 12-year-old post which summarises the basic methods:

 topic 195 - message 981

The forum database is backed up on a daily basis by Jim. In the sense that the server crashes or fails or whatever. In fact it failed to restart one day recently after some maintenance work, and he restored the whole thing from the previous day's backup, probably without anyone here noticing. His robust approach to backups is one of the reasons I have stayed with him for hosting for all these years. But he's just as vulnerable to the bus as anyone else, and I'm sure he would notice if the bus gets me and the hosting payments stop.

You may not know that we share a dedicated server with the Antique Electric Fan Collectors Association of America, just the two of us, half each. They have a large site too, with over 400,000 posts (making our 27,000 look very tiddly):

 http://afcaforum.com/

I will have a word with Larry and see if he has had any thoughts about the future safety of his site.

We could set up a mirror site somewhere, but that doesn't solve the problem of the hosting payments stopping. There are free hosts of course, but no guarantee that they will still be there when you need them -- look what is happening at present to all the YahooGroups web site data.

cheers,

Martin.

posted: 5 Nov 2019 22:49

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Rob Manchester
 
Manchester - United Kingdom

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Martin Wynne wrote:
Hi Rob,

You may not know that we share a dedicated server with the Antique Electric Fan Collectors Association of America, just the two of us, half each. They have a large site too, with over 400,000 posts (making our 27,000 look very tiddly):

 http://afcaforum.com/

Martin.
Hi Martin,

Thanks for the link to the partial template post, I have seen this recently. I think it came up somewhere in the outside slip question posted last week.

Not surprisingly I hadn't heard of Larry's site :D People on there talk about rivet sizes and wire colours just like us on here......

Hope your evening has gone with a bang :shock:

Rob




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