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posted: 22 Mar 2008 05:09 from: Raymond
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Having recently moved I find myself with a loft that has 32x12feet of usable space. For someone who has never been able to contemplate more than a 15 foot end to end this is mind boggling! So far I have designed the fiddle yard but am at a loss how to cope with the space to best advantage. The plan is for a GWR mainly goods railway. In the past I had planed for extensive factories served by rail but this may be an opportunity to do a marshalling yard instead. If anyone has any advice to offer it will be gratefully received. Regards Raymond |
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posted: 22 Mar 2008 05:19 from: Scott Willis click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Raymond wrote:Having recently moved I find myself with a loft that has 32x12feet of usable space. For someone who has never been able to contemplate more than a 15 foot end to end this is mind boggling!Raymond I know how you feel. I moved house about eight years ago and have an old Bothy in my garden that measures 30x15 feet. After spending many years dreaming of having the space for a large layout, when I finally get it I don't know what to fill it with. For a number of years now I have been modelling in S-Scale and don't think I'll live long enough to fill that size of space. I am currently planning a small urban branchline to fit in my spare room. The inside of the Bothy now looks like Steptoe's yard. Good luck Scott. |
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posted: 22 Mar 2008 05:24 from: Martin Wynne
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Raymond wrote: Having recently moved I find myself with a loft that has 32x12feet of usable space. For someone who has never been able to contemplate more than a 15 foot end to end this is mind boggling!Hi Raymond, You didn't mention that this is for 0 gauge, so it's big, but not the vast emptiness that 4mm modellers might be imagining.  In particular, the 12ft width means curves under 6ft radius for a continuous run, which is getting tight in 0 gauge. I see for example that you have a B7 off the inside of the end curve, giving an inner radius of only 41" which is very tight for 0. If you have turnouts in your end curves I would suggest C-10 as the shortest practical size, and preferably using even longer sizes. So I think you might want to hide most of the end curves, leaving a nice visible area 20ft long between them. I noticed that you are using the 0-XF standard. There is more discussion about this in this topic: topic 378 regards, Martin. |
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posted: 22 Mar 2008 13:55 from: Raymond
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Thanks for the replies so far. Martin, You make some good points (as usual) and I will certainly look at changing the B7's for something more appropriate. As to the gauge, I have been toying with moving to 31.2mm and I believe there will be some gauges available soon for those of us who were involved in the discussin on (I think) the 7mm group. Hiding the curves was and is an important scenic demand. I occurs to me that I have the opportunity to turn the fiddle yard into a marshalling yard the rest into a goods yard with the original idea of a conurbation of factories. Reagrds, Raymond |
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posted: 22 Mar 2008 21:51 from: Nigel Brown click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Raymond wrote: Thanks for the replies so far.Hi Raymond I tried using a marshalling yard in place of a fiddle yard on an HO US layout I built some years ago. It didn't really work for me, somehow the fact that all the stock was on the layout proper all of the time didn't feel right. Personally, GWR goods to me means things like a decently long freight behind say a 28XX or 43XX (or maybe 42XX for shorter haul stuff), or a Pannier efficiently shunting stuff around; for me I'd try and incorporate both. I'd stick with a fiddle yard, but make it simpler, say 3 or 4 longer loop lines which could take reasonable length trains. On the opposite side of the room a loop and a couple of sidings for freight marshalling, also feeding some extra sidings at each end of the room but coming more into the middle of the room serving local industries (if that's clear). There's also scope for sticking something (a dock?) in front of part of the fiddle yard, possible with the rail access fed off the inner fiddle yard loop line. It would work something like this. A decent size freight leaves the fiddle yard and runs round to the marshalling yard, drops off a string of wagons and picks up another, if any, then carries on round to the fiddle yard. The local shunter sorts the wagons. Then something, possibly the shunter, delivers some to the local industry, while something else sets off round the room with stuff for the dock. Etc. The scheme I' thinking of would lend itself to being built in stages. Isn't thinking up layouts you don't have to build fun! cheers Nigel |
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posted: 23 Mar 2008 03:22 from: Raymond
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Thanks Nigel for the encouragement. I am currently redrawing the whole thing in 31.2mm but I agree that 28xx with a long frieght is essential. I just happen have a Slater's kit for one waiting in a drawer. a canal would be good since I want to base the layout broadly in the Birmingham area. When there is something worth looking I will post some more. Regards, Raymond |
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posted: 23 Mar 2008 20:59 from: Scott Willis click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Raymond Have you read Don Rowland's recent articles in the MRJ. Don has built himself a large circular layout and operates a marshalling yard rather than a fiddle yard. I'm sure that with a bit of imagination and a creative time table, trains can be made to look as if they are heading to or from somewhere else. Even if you don't like Don's idea, his articles are well worth the read. Keep us posted Scott |
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