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posted: 20 Dec 2008 16:23

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Howard
 
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I'm using 0.91c on Windows XP.

When I start Templot I need 6 mouse clicks to get going. Is there a way to reduce this?

(1) click on the initial panel "Ready, Steady, CLICK"
(2) click (or enter) to remove the "Welcome to Templot - About Screen Fonts".
(3) Program Information, click on "other options and more information"
(4) then "use ON-screen refresh"
(5) "Do you wish to restore"...
(6) click on the background to remove the program panel.

The only one that seems necessary is (5).

Is there a way to stop these coming up everytime I start Templot? I couldn't see this mentioned in the Templot Companion under "Getting Started".

Howard.

posted: 20 Dec 2008 16:54

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Martin Wynne
 
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Howard wrote:
Is there a way to stop these coming up everytime I start Templot? I couldn't see this mentioned in the Templot Companion under "Getting Started".
Hi Howard,

Sorry, there isn't any way to remove these startup dialogs.

However, it takes only a second to start Templot -- when the first "Ready , Steady, Click" dialog appears, PRESS & HOLD DOWN the ENTER key on the keyboard while Templot runs through the start-up.

If you prefer to use on-screen refresh, you can change it after start-up by clicking the white circle on the red panel at the extreme top-left of the workpad (or by pressing the INSERT key).

If you didn't want to restore the previous session, you can clear all templates after start-up by pressing CTRL+DEL.

If you end up with the control/current template not visible, press the HOME key.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 20 Dec 2008 22:29

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Howard
 
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Martin Wynne wrote:
Howard wrote:
Is there a way to stop these coming up everytime I start Templot? I couldn't see this mentioned in the Templot Companion under "Getting Started".
Hi Howard,

Sorry, there isn't any way to remove these startup dialogs.

Martin.
Thanks for the reply. That's a shame. I was expecting something on each panel to say "don't show this again" or "remember this setting".

The problem is more acute when starting out because the easiest way to get out of a muddle is to start from the beginning again.

Take my present situation. I have modified the starting template to an N gauge A6 point, repositioned it, changed the approach length & overall length. Then saved it via "save all templates" (is the the right thing to do?). When I restart Templot & reload the saved template, I try to extend the branch line but it adds another point. There is also a small white rectangle that I don't understand and cannot get rid of. What am I doing wrong?
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posted: 20 Dec 2008 23:31

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Martin Wynne
 
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Howard wrote:
When I restart Templot & reload the saved template, I try to extend the branch line but it adds another point. What am I doing wrong?
Hi Howard,

Click on the template. On its menu (which pops up on the left), click delete to the control.* Then click tools > make branch track menu item. You may find it helpful to watch this video:

 http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html

(*for versions prior to 091c, that's delete to current instead.)

There is also a small white rectangle that I don't understand and cannot get rid of.
It's called the "notch" and is used in more complex overlay and positioning operations. Read all about the peg and notch functions at:

  http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_geometry.htm

But for a beginner you don't need them. You can do all the basic stuff, as in the above video, using the tools menu functions and F7 snapping. Here's an animation of F7 snapping:

f7_snap_ani.giff7_snap_ani.gif

See the notes about it at:

 http://www.templot.com/martweb/f7_snap_demo.htm

regards,

Martin.

posted: 21 Dec 2008 02:26

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Howard
 
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Martin Wynne wrote:
Howard wrote:
There is also a small white rectangle that I don't understand and cannot get rid of.
It's called the "notch" ...But for a beginner you don't need them. You can do all the basic stuff ...using the tools menu functions and F7 snapping.

Martin.
Thanks for that. I have not yet read much about the notch. I did discover F7 snapping when I upgraded to 0.91.c, and found it very useful.

Howard.

posted: 22 Dec 2008 15:47

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Howard
 
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OK, I'm making progress.

I now have a single point with three tracks. I changed

1) Tools | adjacent track centres (to 23 mm)
2) real | plain track options | rail length & sleeper spacings (to 60 feet with 26 sleepers)

and then

generator | rebuild all background

However neither changes show up in the information panel for the track. If I now use
"wipe to the control" to make the branch track the control template, then
tools | make double track TS
the new track is spaced 25mm from the existing, and not 23mm as required.

Am I doing something wrong? Is this a bug? Or is it a "feature"?

Howard.

posted: 22 Dec 2008 16:37

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Martin Wynne
 
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Howard wrote:
1) Tools | adjacent track centres (to 23 mm)
2) real | plain track options | rail length & sleeper spacings (to 60 feet with 26 sleepers)

and then generator | rebuild all background

However neither changes show up in the information panel for the track. If I now use
"wipe to the control" to make the branch track the control template, then
tools | make double track TS the new track is spaced 25mm from the existing, and not 23mm as required.
Hi Howard,

Rebuilding a background template in the generator makes only the changes detailed in the generator settings. It doesn't change the template design settings. The generator settings are for your convenience in using the program, they are not part of the track design process.

The track design settings which you mentioned (and many others) are specific to each template. Changing them for one existing template doesn't change them for any of the other existing templates. In matching prototype practice you may very likely want these settings to differ for different parts of your track plan.

When you make these settings, they are for the control template only, but they will persist through all subsequent templates derived from it. So the thing to do is to change these settings before you store the first template on the background. Once a template has been stored on the background, these settings are "locked in" so to speak, and won't be affected by any subsequent changes which you make for other templates.

If you want to change them, you must first delete the background template to the control template, make the changes, and then store it again.

After doing that, you can revert to your previous control template (and its settings), by means of the "undo changes" roll-back function for the control template (CTRL-U), or with some forward planning you can first put your existing control template in the parking bay (do > parking bay > menu items).

Whenever at a later time you delete, copy, or wipe a background template to the control, you should always check that its settings correspond to your current requirements, and if necessary make any changes before re-using the template.

Having said that, there is an option for advanced users to change the plain track settings for all templates, or a group of several templates, in one go. On the storage box, read the help notes for the "modify on rebuild" option. If you use this option, it is essential that you remember to cancel it afterwards.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 22 Dec 2008 19:34

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Howard
 
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Thanks, it kind of makes sense. The confusing thing is that making double track uses the setting for the existing template, not the control template.

Anyway to fix my problem, I tried the "advanced method" & it worked for rail length & sleeper spacing, but not for adjacent track centres.

I then tried delete to control & again the track centres were not changed.

However I tried a third time & checked the track centres before and after "delete to control". It was 23mm before and 25mm after. Changing this back to 23mm and all seems fine now.

Howard.





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