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topic: 680Grid options not being saved
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posted: 4 Jan 2009 23:49

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Paul Boyd
 
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Hi Martin

I think I've found a minor problem running Templot on Vista!  It appears that grid options are neither being read nor saved.  This is what I've done to check this:

Running Templot on XP, I created a layout with the grid set to 0.5ft in both X and Y directions, and saved this as a box file.  Closing Templot then reloading the file (still on XP) shows that the grid settings are saved as expected.

Now on Vista, opening exactly the same file brings the grid up in the default metric setting.  If this is saved, the metric settings are remembered (or perhaps any grid setting is lost) and also appear if the same file is subsequently opened on XP.  The grid can be changed (in Vista) to 0.5ft spacings, but when saved the box file reverts to metric when reloaded either under Vista or XP.

Similarly, a brand new layout created in Vista ignores any grid options saved with the BOX file.  On the Vista machine, this occurs whether the files are loaded/saved over the LAN or locally.  During these tests I'm also ensuring that I'm only running one copy of Templot at a time, between the two machines, to prevent problems with two copies trying to access the same file.

In the great scheme of things this is a minor problem though!  I've not yet seen anything else awry running Templot under Vista, and taking my laptop away over Christmas relieved some boredom :)

(Oh yeah - version 0.91c on both machines!)

Cheers
Last edited on 4 Jan 2009 23:51 by Paul Boyd
posted: 5 Jan 2009 02:30

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Paul Boyd wrote:
Running Templot on XP, I created a layout with the grid set to 0.5ft in both X and Y directions, and saved this as a box file.  Closing Templot then reloading the file (still on XP) shows that the grid settings are saved as expected.

Now on Vista, opening exactly the same file brings the grid up in the default metric setting.

Hi Paul,

Many thanks for the detailed report.

This is another one of those flaws which is actually a feature. Or maybe not. :)

The grid settings are restored only if you reload the .box file on the same computer from which it was saved (i.e. same lock-release code). If you reload the .box file on some other computer, the existing grid settings are not changed.

I did that so that you could send a .box file to another user without inflicting your grid preferences on him.

By rights the grid settings shouldn't be in the data file, they should be part of a user preferences function. We don't yet have such a thing. So I kludged the grid settings into the .box file as a temporary solution to satisfy the frequent requests for the grid settings to be saved.

If the above doesn't explain everything you find happening, please write again.

If the above isn't explained anywhere in the notes, my apologies. Off to check... :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 5 Jan 2009 02:49

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Martin Wynne
 
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I wrote:
If the above isn't explained anywhere in the notes, my apologies. Off to check... :)

Well, sort of explained. :)

The notes for 079a on this page: changes up to 082d say:

The grid spacing and units settings are now saved in the template data file, and restored when you reload the file on your own computer.

I ought to have expanded on that a bit. Sorry.

Martin.

posted: 5 Jan 2009 04:19

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Paul Boyd
 
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Hi Martin

Thanks for the response - that is an obscure "feature" :)
The grid spacing and units settings are now saved in the template data file, and restored when you reload the file on your own computer.
But the Vista and the XP machines are both my own computers :D (I know what you mean though!)  But, if you send a box file to another user, shouldn't they see it in the same way as the original?  A rhetorical question really because I'm not sure what the answer is in the case of Templot!

(What was that about renaming this forum?????)

Cheers


posted: 5 Jan 2009 04:29

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Martin Wynne
 
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Paul Boyd wrote:
But, if you send a box file to another user, shouldn't they see it in the same way as the original?
Hi Paul,

Well no, because Templot doesn't use the Windows document model. You are simply sending them data. How they display it is up to them.

For example, they might want to add it into their existing plan -- you might be sending them a design for an MPD area, say.

A rhetorical question really because I'm not sure what the answer is in the case of Templot!
You noticed! :)

regards,

Martin.



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