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posted: 12 Jan 2009 11:26

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Dear all,

Welcome to Templot Club on its new host at Data 1 Systems. Thanks for making the switch -- please let me know if you have any problems.

Please remember to update your bookmarks to  http://85a.co.uk/forum

regards,

Martin.

posted: 12 Jan 2009 20:47

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its_all_downhill
 
North Yorkshire - United Kingdom

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Hi Martin

All seems to have gone well so far! Well done.. are you keeping the Templot domain? or is this it now?

Regards
Tom

posted: 12 Jan 2009 22:13

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Martin Wynne
 
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its_all_downhill wrote:
All seems to have gone well so far! Well done.. are you keeping the Templot domain? or is this it now?
Hi Tom,

Only the Templot Club forum has moved, everything else remains unchanged on the templot.com domain.

In fact I wanted to move only the database, leaving the forum pages on templot.com . But it seems that remote access to a database server has significant security issues, and it was deemed more sensible to move the whole thing onto my web space at Data 1.

The reason for the move is that our previous hosting provider modified their database server settings over New Year, and since 28th December I have not been able to make reliable backups of the Templot Club database. It would be a great misfortune to lose the accumulated content on Templot Club, and having a reliable backup is essential.

So we have moved to a new host. Templot Club is now in the safe hands of Jim Hale at Data 1 Systems in Columbus, Ohio. Jim is the developer of the UltraBB software which runs Templot Club, and has a very robust backup schedule on all his hosted accounts. In addition, I can now make my own backups again. Which means that our content is safely backed up on both sides of the pond!

Unfortunately moving the whole thing means that you need to update your bookmarks to the new address, and log in again here before you can post messages. Sorry about that. If you have forgotten your log in password there is a mechanism to change it on the log in dialog, or I can help if you are stuck.

There are bound to be a few teething problems with the changeover, but as far as I can tell most of it is working ok so far. One thing which isn't, is the indication of "new" unread topics. Several topics which you have in fact read may still show as "new", even if you mark them as read. That should sort itself out after a few days -- it's related to the change of time zone on the server, and the time limit on "recent" topics. If you find any other problems please let me know.

The old site will remain available for a while until I can get all the web site links updated. However, it is now "read-only", which means that you won't be able to post messages there. You can do that only on this new site.

If you want to change any of your profile settings, please make sure that you are on this new site (85a.co.uk in the address bar), as changes made on the old site won't have any effect.

Now back to upgrading the pages for the latest software upgrade, and reinstating the smallfonts theme. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 13 Jan 2009 08:47

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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A couple of points to note as a result of the change of time zone on the server:

1. If you receive the daily digest of club emails, it now goes out at 5am UK time instead of midnight UK time.

2. The "who visited today" list now resets at 5am UK time instead of midnight UK time.

On balance I think this is helpful for users in the UK. If you work on after midnight, you tend to regard it as still the day before, whereas few are likely to be starting a new day on their computer before 5am.

Users elsewhere in the world may or may not see it as a helpful change.

Either way, we are stuck with it! :)

Martin.

posted: 14 Jan 2009 06:55

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gsmorris
 
 

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Martin,

 

no probs yet

 

GSM

posted: 19 Jan 2009 08:07

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Graham Idle
 
Redhill, Surrey - United Kingdom

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Hi all, is anyone else having the same problems (or is it me. When I go to the forums it shows multiple new messages. When I click on a particular new message, I am taken to the first message in the forum, not the newest. Also, it says that messages are new when I have already read them. This could always be something to do with my settings, as I am in the process of re-installing all my programs due to a new hard drive. I will be asking Martin for a new unlock code as soon as I feel my new system is stable.:?

posted: 19 Jan 2009 08:22

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Jim Guthrie
 
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Graham Idle wrote:
Hi all, is anyone else having the same problems (or is it me. When I go to the forums it shows multiple new messages. When I click on a particular new message, I am taken to the first message in the forum, not the newest. Also, it says that messages are new when I have already read them. This could always be something to do with my settings, as I am in the process of re-installing all my programs due to a new hard drive. I will be asking Martin for a new unlock code as soon as I feel my new system is stable.:?
Graham,

I think this was a problem flagged up by Martin a week or so ago.  I've been getting the same thing and I've just been calling up the threads affected, and next time round,  they don't appear as threads with new messages.

Jim.

posted: 19 Jan 2009 09:24

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Graham Idle wrote:
When I go to the forums it shows multiple new messages. When I click on a particular new message, I am taken to the first message in the forum, not the newest. Also, it says that messages are new when I have already read them.
Hi Graham,

There is a known bug in the forum software concerning this. It's been eluding Jim Hale (the software developer) for months. He is watching this site carefully at present to see if our move to a different server can throw any light on the problem.

Essentially, the "new" indicators should signal whether there are messages which you haven't yet read -- or not. The date and time of those messages shouldn't come into it. But it does, in a way which is linked in some way to the time limit for the "recent" topics.

Other users of this software have reported similar problems after topics have been moved from one forum to another (we moved the entire database to a new server). What happens is that the system sorts itself out when the "recent" time limit is up. That's currently set to 14 days on here, and we moved on 12th January, so I'm confident that it will all come right after 26th January.

The original code was written by a very clever programmer, Aycan Gulez, and is extremely dense in places. I've tried looking for the bug myself -- I'm glad it's Jim's job to sort it out, not mine. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 20 Jan 2009 16:53

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Graham Idle
 
Redhill, Surrey - United Kingdom

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Hi, thanks for the replies. I'll wait to see if it clears itself.:D
Regards, Graham

posted: 23 Jan 2009 17:13

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richard_t
 
Nr. Spalding, South Holland - United Kingdom

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I've just noticed the Templot Club link on http://www.templot.com/martweb/templot.htm still goes to the old Templot Club address and not this one.

HIH

posted: 23 Jan 2009 17:44

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Martin Wynne
 
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richard_t wrote:
I've just noticed the Templot Club link on http://www.templot.com/martweb/templot.htm still goes to the old Templot Club address and not this one.
Hi Richard,

Yes, thanks for noticing. There is still a lot to do -- I was waiting to be sure the new hosting is stable. So far it seems very good.

For example the Zoom site search results are still pointing to the old site. Likewise all the old messages in the Yahoo archive, and I can't change those.

But there is a big yellow re-direction link on the old site, which would be hard to miss. :)

regards,

Martin.



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