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topic: 733A Temploteer's puzzle book
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posted: 13 Feb 2009 11:02

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Dear all,

Hmm. A new book landed on my doormat yesterday:

Aspects of Modelling -- Track Layouts

Anthony New, Ian Allan 2008, ISBN: 9780711033559

It contains a nice selection of attractively drawn track plans in the traditional CJF "Euston in a shoebox" style.

But on closer inspection you soon realise that many of them contain some impossibly complex pointwork in the space available. There is a 1ft grid on the plans, and the note at the front says they are for 00 gauge, but in truth for many of them you would struggle to fit N gauge in the space shown. There are crossovers in less than 6" total length, double-junctions in about 9" overall length, and on one plan I spotted a double slip in about 4". :?

CJF's plans were at least buildable if you didn't mind the very sharp train-set curves. Whereas this book could lead to a lot of disappointment for less-experienced modellers, possibly after some expense to build baseboards and buy track.

And yet. With a bit of ingenuity and a lot of overlaid templates it might be possible to re-work some of these plans in Templot, and still keep all the connections shown. P4 is almost certainly out, but in 00 or EM you just might be able to come up with a workable version.

So if you enjoy using Templot, here is a puzzle book to keep you happy for hours. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 13 Feb 2009 12:41

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Jim Guthrie
 
United Kingdom

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Martin,

You may have remembered the longish thread in RMWEB a month or so ago. :?

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=34358&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=anthony+new

Jim.

posted: 13 Feb 2009 13:33

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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Jim said
You may have remembered the longish thread in RMWEB a month or so ago
I didn't see that thread, but when I saw Martin's post I wasn't surprised that he commented on the unbuildability of Anthony New's plans.  That has been my opinion for years, and from reading that thread it's obvious I'm not alone.  I think the approach taken by Railway Modeller and Model Rail is far more realistic in that they are showing plans using actual track pieces so that a beginner can build it instead of being put off and assuming that they can't do this.

Then again, even respected names can fall fowl of unworkable plans - I've seen some of Barry Norman's plans that are a little dubious!

Edit:  I've just had a go at Anthony New's "Avonside Works" plan in "Hornby Magazine".  The bits I've done are impossible!  Track spacings are far too close, and one turnout has to be a 1 in 2.5 - the same turnout will have the switches of one end of a double slip coinciding with the V-crossing, and the other end of the slip is about 5 inches away.  See attached for a section - I've used OO/HO track for this.
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posted: 17 Feb 2009 17:40

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Peter Ayre
 
 

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I think a lot of plan ideas tend to over estimate what you can get in a particular area.
Several CJF plans work when you expand the described area by 50%+.

Just my thoughts.

Peter



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