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topic: 856Warning -- Firefox users please read
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posted: 8 Jun 2009 12:40

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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This is a serious warning from a respected source.

If you are using Firefox you may want to check Tools > Add-ons to see if Microsoft have installed this extension without your permission.

Please be aware that modifying the Windows Registry is not for the faint-hearted, and could seriously damage your system if you get it wrong.

In a recent update of the .NET framework Microsoft silently installs an extension to your Firefox browser if it is found on your system. This extension enables websites you visit with Firefox to silently install software on your computer, thus injecting the most serious flaw of Internet Explorer into Firefox.

Microsoft installs this extension in such a way that it cannot be removed directly by the user -- it is listed in the Extensions list but Uninstall is disabled.

This is not a bug -- this is the intended functionality of the Firefox extension, probably to enable Microsoft to install software on your machine when you visit their websites with Firefox instead of IE. This extension introduces a serious security vulnerability to Firefox. It should be removed immediately, using the instructions below.

Please take this very seriously. This kind of vulnerability is the main reason you started using Firefox instead of IE in the first place.

How to disable the Firefox .NET Framework Assistant installed by Microsoft:

Since Microsoft has taken steps to actively prevent removal of the .NET Framework Assistant extension by the user you need to edit the registry and manually delete the installed files. You can get instructions explaining how to do this from the Windows Annoyances web site, on this page:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article08-600

Note that on Windows 7 and possibly some Versions of Vista the Uninstall button may actually be active for the .NET extension in the Firefox extensions list. However, using it does not appear to remove all the components of the extension. Since the vulnerability is so serious you should still manually check all the items on the Windows Annoyances check list to make sure they have all been removed.

regards,

Martin.


posted: 8 Jun 2009 13:28

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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In a recent update of the .NET framework Microsoft silently installs an extension to your Firefox browser if it is found on your system. This extension enables websites you visit with Firefox to silently install software on your computer, thus injecting the most serious flaw of Internet Explorer into Firefox.
That must be verging on illegality, surely?  If Microsoft want to make their own software buggy and insecure, that's fine.  But to do the same to a third party's competing program, and then make it very difficult to remove is very, very wrong.  How long will it be before dodgy websites take advantage of that, then people will be blaming Mozilla instead of Microsoft.  I'm not a happy bunny :(

Anyway, I've now removed it, but that process is not for the non-computer literate.

posted: 8 Jun 2009 14:17

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John Shelley
 
St Ciers Sur Gironde 33820 - France

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Paul Boyd wrote:
In a recent update of the .NET framework Microsoft silently installs an extension to your Firefox browser if it is found on your system. This extension enables websites you visit with Firefox to silently install software on your computer, thus injecting the most serious flaw of Internet Explorer into Firefox.
That must be verging on illegality, surely?  If Microsoft want to make their own software buggy and insecure, that's fine.  But to do the same to a third party's competing program, and then make it very difficult to remove is very, very wrong.  How long will it be before dodgy websites take advantage of that, then people will be blaming Mozilla instead of Microsoft.  I'm not a happy bunny :(

Anyway, I've now removed it, but that process is not for the non-computer literate.
I don't appear to have that  Microsoft extension, but do have a "Java Quick Starter" that has the désinstaller button greyed out (I've got the french language version installed - don't ask why).  It isn't that is it?  I hope not as I've had a look at the instructions and although I consider myself competent I don't like the look of what has to be done.

Cheers for now

John from St Ciers 33820, France

posted: 8 Jun 2009 15:06

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Bruce Wilson
 
Barrie - Ontario Canada

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No need to mess with Windows registry.

The one click can be useful on occasion and as it is there is the option to disable it in FF.  Click on Tools and then Add-ons and highlight the NETframework extension and click on Disable.


Second MS has released an update to the NETframework extension in FF that allows removal

http://tinyurl.com/cbx4me

Bruce Wilson
Barrie, ON

posted: 8 Jun 2009 15:59

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Phil O
 
Plymouth - United Kingdom

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Hi Martin

Thanks for the info, I have now removed the bill gates infiltration, but it is a pain and certainly not for the faint hearted.

Cheers Phil :thumb:

posted: 8 Jun 2009 16:04

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Jim Guthrie
 
United Kingdom

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Martin Wynne wrote:
This is a serious warning from a respected source.

If you are using Firefox you may want to check Tools > Add-ons to see if Microsoft have installed this extension without your permission.

Please be aware that modifying the Windows Registry is not for the faint-hearted, and could seriously damage your system if you get it wrong.
Interestingly enough,  my Add-on entry had an option to disable the attachment which gave the indication of having worked when I went through the disabling procedure.    But I opted to remove the add-on in any case.:D

Jim.

posted: 8 Jun 2009 16:40

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Paul Boyd wrote:
If Microsoft want to make their own software buggy and insecure, that's fine. But to do the same to a third party's competing program, and then make it very difficult to remove is very, very wrong. How long will it be before dodgy websites take advantage of that, then people will be blaming Mozilla instead of Microsoft. I'm not a happy bunny :(
Hi Paul,

There's been a lot of froth on the web about this, and some discussion about how serious it is. The argument goes that it makes Firefox no more vulnerable that fully patched IE, and the functionality gained can be useful.

But lots of things are useful -- that doesn't mean I want them forced on me without my knowledge or a chance to assess the risk. In response to the fuss, Microsoft have an update download which re-enables the Uninstall button. See:

 Update to .NET Framework 3.5 SP1

But that means trusting Microsoft to clean up their own mess, and the evidence seems to be that it doesn't actually remove the files or the vulnerability they represent, it just switches them off. Which is why I left the link to the full removal procedure.

Of course, it's quite likely that Windows Update will simply re-install this thing next time round. Check your Add-ons list after using Update!

regards,

Martin.

posted: 8 Jun 2009 19:18

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John Lewis
 
Croydon - United Kingdom

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Like John from St Ciers 33820, France, I do not seem to have any reference to NET in my Firefox Tools/Add-ons, only a "Java Quick Starter", which I assume is not the Microsoft modification in question.

In practice I rarely use Firefox, my normal browser is Opera. I have Windows XP Professional, SP3.

posted: 8 Jun 2009 21:15

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IAK
 
United Kingdom

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John Lewis wrote:
Like John from St Ciers 33820, France, I do not seem to have any reference to NET in my Firefox Tools/Add-ons, only a "Java Quick Starter", which I assume is not the Microsoft modification in question.

Same here with my beastie....
Just means I have an office full of PC's which need checking in the morning now

:(:roll::(

posted: 8 Jun 2009 21:28

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Brian Lewis
 
United Kingdom

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Thank you for the warning Martin. What concerns me is, what is to stop MS adding it again at some time in the future? Things seem to be added to my computers almost nightly. Do I have to check every day?

Regards

Brian Lewis

posted: 8 Jun 2009 21:42

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Martin Wynne
 
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More information here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClickOnce

Scroll down to "Firefox extensions".

Martin.



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