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topic: 867Bug in Slide with numeric input?
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posted: 12 Jun 2009 20:09

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richard_t
 
Nr. Spalding, South Holland - United Kingdom

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I wanted to make a tandem matching one of those in Standard Railway Equipment (c9/b8). The toe of the b switch is 29'6" from that of the c switch. So I placed a b turnout on top of the c turnout with the fixings pegs of both at the right point (ha ha!) and then hit F9, and then clicked in the little window to enter the right value.

But instead I got to move the peg, and not the "slide value". Not what I expected.

edited to make more sense - it's a been a long day
Last edited on 12 Jun 2009 20:10 by richard_t
posted: 12 Jun 2009 22:12

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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richard_t wrote:
edited to make more sense - it's a been a long day
Hi Richard,

If that's making more sense, what was it like before! :)

Seriously, it's all working as intended. If entering the peg dimension directly it needs to be negative on X relative to CTRL-0 on the second turnout, and then you can peg the second turnout over the the first turnout using the notch. Leave the peg Y dimension unchanged on half-gauge for the main-road centre-line.

I'll make a bit of Jing video shortly showing that.

It's probably easier to zoom right in so that you get more mouse resolution, and then set the required slide offset using the mouse action directly.

These peg dimensions are internal to the template and therefore independent of any curving, i.e. peg X is measured along the track centre-line.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 13 Jun 2009 08:58

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richard_t
 
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BTW: I achieved what I wanted to do with CTRL+F9 Roam Along, where I could enter the offset.

When I want to curve a template*, I can hit F6 and then clicked on the "little window" and enter the curving data. The same with F4 overall length, and of course others.

I thought that if I hit F9 slide, and then clicked on the "little window" I would be able to enter the same data that I was modifiying - ie. the X, not the peg position. The same with Snake as well. I guess I don't understand what slide/snake are really doing, just the effect of what they do?

(* I'm not saying that's the best way of doing it, just an example.)

posted: 14 Jun 2009 01:59

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Martin Wynne
 
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I wrote:
If entering the peg dimension directly it needs to be negative on X relative to CTRL-0 on the second turnout, and then you can peg the second turnout over the the first turnout using the notch. Leave the peg Y dimension unchanged on half-gauge for the main-road centre-line.

I'll make a bit of Jing video shortly showing that.
Hi Richard,

Here's some Jing video showing how to offset two switches for a tandem turnout when you know the exact stagger offset required. There is no need to use the mouse actions, you can enter the data directly to set the relative peg positions.

The video may take a few moments to load. Mouse over it to access the controls. Click the loudspeaker icon to mute the sound if it is not to your liking.

Just for illustration I used the p prefix to enter prototype data in inches when model data in mm is requested. (29ft-6in is 354"). The scale is currently 7mm/ft, so Templot converts that to 206.5mm for you.

The X dimension to the peg is relative to the CTRL-0 datum position on the template. Dimensions are positive forward into the template, and negative when backwards out of the template. In this case we are moving the peg on the second turnout back towards the first template, so the dimension is negative: p-354 = -206.5mm

The Y dimension to the peg is left unchanged. (It is relative to the main-road stock rail, i.e. for the track centre-line it is half of the track gauge -- half of 33mm for S7 is 16.5mm.)

Then it is simply a matter of pegging the second template over the first template using the notch.

Templot version 091c.  music © Kevin MacLeod

I will post in a separate topic some more Jing video showing the differences between the snake, slide, roam, and orbit mouse actions. There is no actual bug, it was a design decision to have the peg X dimension showing the opposite sign in the mouse action window for snake and slide. I will have a fresh think about that.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 16 Jun 2009 02:10

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Martin Wynne
 
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Martin Wynne wrote:
I will post in a separate topic some more Jing video showing the differences between the snake, slide, roam, and orbit mouse actions.
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