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posted: 24 Jun 2009 20:53 from: Brian Lewis
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Hi Martin, Just had the above installed on my lap top. Apparently it contains software suitable for touch sensitive screens. Now with this facility, just think how Templot could be improved....... On your list perhaps? Also, at the time of general release in October, you will be able to download Windows spyware and antivirus software - free. No more paying £30 at machine for NOD32 V4? Regards Brian Lewis |
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posted: 24 Jun 2009 21:03 from: Martin Wynne
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Brian Lewis wrote: Just had the above installed on my lap top. Apparently it contains software suitable for touch sensitive screens. Now with this facility, just think how Templot could be improved....... On your list perhaps?Hi Brian, I'm not too sure how a touch screen would help, but I'm open to suggestions. To me it sounds like a recipe for a screen covered in smeary finger marks, and arm-ache.  Touch screens are intended primarily for young children and public kiosk applications, I would have thought. I'm very happy with NOD32 V4 and I'm not sure I'd want to trust Microsoft with my anti-virus protection. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 24 Jun 2009 21:29 from: Paul Boyd
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Martin wrote:I'm not too sure how a touch screen would help, but I'm open to suggestions. To me it sounds like a recipe for a screen covered in smeary finger marks, and arm-ache.We had a touch screen on one of the assembly machines at work, and it worked OK. There was a reason for that though - the program was DOS-based and had big, clunky "buttons". I can't imagine getting the precision needed for Templot with a touch screen, but I would be open to be proven wrong. I would also be concerned about arm-ache, and I'm almost obsessive about keeping my screens clean and free from greasy fingerprints! Having said that, I could see touch screens being used in conjunction with the Snap function to drag templates around, or to drag lengths or radii of templates so there is some potential there! I do actually quite like the idea of touch screens generally, but not sure how long-term use would work out. After all, I can't even use a mouse for more than a few minutes now! I'm very happy with NOD32 V4 and I'm not sure I'd want to trust Microsoft with my anti-virus protection.My feelings exactly, except substitute Kaspersky for NOD32  My experiments with Windows 7 have ground to a halt as I just have too much stuff that won't work. I've even reverted my desktop PC back to XP after a brief dalliance with Vista. (Still happy with Vista on my laptop though) Cheers |
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posted: 24 Jun 2009 21:46 from: John Lewis
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Paul wrote:My experiments with Windows 7 have ground to a halt as I just have too much stuff that won't work. I've even reverted my desktop PC back to XP after a brief dalliance with Vista. (Still happy with Vista on my laptop though) Does this include the Windows 7's "XP mode", please? So far I have not had to use Vista, so I was thinking that my next PC (in due course) might have Windows 7. |
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posted: 24 Jun 2009 21:53 from: Martin Wynne
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Paul Boyd wrote: Having said that, I could see touch screens being used in conjunction with the Snap function to drag templates around, or to drag lengths or radii of templates so there is some potential there!Hi Paul, Hmm. I can see the attraction of a touch screen to dab a big coloured button, but I don't see how you could do precision dragging and positioning with your finger obscuring the detail? Or pick from a detailed menu with your finger covering the words?  Fingers on a thing like a pen tablet to control the mouse pointer makes a lot more sense. Those things on a laptop are ludicrously too small, but the same thing the size of a mouse mat might be very handy. What are they called - presumably someone makes them now? -- and they work with all existing versions of Windows. To be honest I'm entirely happy with a traditional mouse -- but I did banish double-clicking within 5 minutes of first ever getting one! regards, Martin. |
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posted: 24 Jun 2009 22:14 from: Paul Boyd
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Hi JohnDoes this include the Windows 7's "XP mode", please? So far I have not had to use Vista, so I was thinking that my next PC (in due course) might have Windows 7.I didn't try that mode for a number of reasons, primarily printer-related. In brief, I have a 15-ish year old bomb-proof and apparently self-refilling HP Laserjet and an ALPS MD-1300. The former is my default printer and won't work under Win7, so "XP Mode" wouldn't help when printing from Win7, and the MD-1300 drivers are so fussy that there's no way it will work in an emulated mode - it doesn't even like Vista. It would need a genuine XP install as a dual-boot system (which is what I had with Vista, but I chickened out of a triple-boot system with Win7 and installed it on a physically different hard drive.) Martin wrote: Hmm. I can see the attraction of a touch screen to dab a big coloured button, but I don't see how you could do precision dragging and positioning with your finger obscuring the detail? Or pick from a detailed menu with your finger covering the words?I actually had a dummy run with Templot using my finger on the screen (left hand) whilst tracking the cursor under my finger tip using the tablet in the right hand. Working menus seemed to be fine because you can still see most of the text, but I can't see precision dragging working well. That's why I think the snap function would work well with it - you just drag the template somewhere near and it snaps into place. Not that I'm trying to defend touch screens or anything I don't know if you can get touch pads in a sensible size, but I get on with the one on my laptop with few problems. I plug in a graphics tablet though if I want to play with Templot on there! Does anyone still use double-click? Everyone to whom I've shown the single-click setting has changed to it and never changed back! Cheers |
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posted: 24 Jun 2009 22:49 from: John Lewis
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Thanks, Paul. I have a not new, unfortunately not-self filling HP5550 inkjet printer, a similarly aged Epson Scanner and an older folm scanner and I am not really looking forward to replacing all of them if I have to get a new PC. Having an oldish PC does encourage you to backup regularly! |
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posted: 25 Jun 2009 09:00 from: Paul Boyd
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Hi JohnI have a not new, unfortunately not-self filling HP5550 inkjet printer, a similarly aged Epson Scanner and an older folm scanner and I am not really looking forward to replacing all of them if I have to get a new PC.As far as scanners go, you might want to investigate VueScan at http://www.hamrick.com/ My Canon scanner wouldn't work under Vista using Canon software, but it was happy under VueScan. In fact, I've kept VueScan in preference to the Canon software even now I've gone back to XP. There's a list of supported scanners on their website. Cheers |
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posted: 25 Jun 2009 12:25 from: Andy G click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
My phone has a touch screen and uses a pointy thing about the size of those small pens you used to get in diaries. I could perhaps see that being sensitive enough to work. I'd also see the screen perhaps not being in its traditional place but flat(ter) on the desktop, i.e. as a piece of paper would be. On the otherhand I'd really like to take a hammer to my phone - touch sensitive includes your ear whilst you're making a call! Andy |
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