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posted: 7 Sep 2009 20:33 from: Mark Leigh
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Hi Everyone, As a new(ish) user of Templot i have managed to create a P4 Test Track in BH rail with wooden sleepers. Now i need to add some FB Plain Track on concrete sleepers However i don't seem able to do so. I can create FB pointwork. No problems but plain old straight track - No Hope. What am i doing wrong ????? Can't seem to find a link on the Forum, though i'm sure there probably is one!!!! Thanks Mark   |
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posted: 7 Sep 2009 21:11 from: Martin Wynne
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Mark Leigh wrote: Now i need to add some FB Plain Track on concrete sleepersHi Mark, You posted your message in the "My notes and files" section of Templot Club, where it would be visible only to yourself. I have moved it here to the "Templot talk" forum. If the pre-set 60ft jointed plain track settings don't match your FB prototype, you can set up custom rail lengths and sleeper spacings for plain track. See this topic for more details: topic 661 There is a detailed guide to setting up custom plain track spacings is in this document compiled by Stuart Hince: Custom Plain Track . The dimensions given there are for the Great Western Railway, but the method is applicable for all prototypes. If CWR (long-welded rail) is wanted, click the real > plain track options > rail joint marks > none menu item. Then set a dummy custom "rail length" which is equal to the sleeper spacing, and have a single sleeper spaced at half that distance from the dummy "joint". To set the sleeper sizes to match your prototype concrete sleepers, click the real > timbering > timbering data... menu item. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 12:20 from: adj click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Does anybody have or know where I can find dimensions (timber spacing etc) for BR FB track panels on wooden sleepers? I know that dimensions have changed over the years. Adriano |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 12:43 from: richard_t
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These are center-to-center and from BRT 5th Ed 24 sleepers per 60ft: 318mm + 675mm + 712mm + 751mm + 17 x 788mm + 751mm + 712mm + 675mm + 318mm 26 sleepers per 60ft: 318mm + 661mm + 700mm + 21 x 712mm + 700mm + 661mm + 318mm 26 (C.W.R): 351mm + 25 x 702mm + 351mm 28 (C.W.R) 327mm + 27 x 654mm + 327mm I'm not sure about the last two, if they are CWR they wouldn't have rail joints, so why list them in 60ft (18.3m) panels? (sorry for the metric, quicker to type!) |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 12:47 from: richard_t
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From edition 6, for CWR sleeper spacing varies between 650mm to 750mm depending on the line speed, amount of traffic and typical tonnage. | ||
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 13:00 from: Martin Wynne
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Hi Adriano, Here's a scan from BRT4. If you view it in the Image Gallery you can click the link to see the scan at original size. 2_080749_470000000.png  For CWR: 26 per 60ft is normal. 28 per 60ft is used where: line speed is over 100mph, or radius is less than 40 chains, or cwr on wooden sleepers (rare). Chart and dimensions apply from 1969 -- which era are you modelling? Earlier practice varied slightly, and present day practice is more complex. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 13:05 from: Martin Wynne
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richard_t wrote: 26 (C.W.R): 351mm + 25 x 702mm + 351mmHi Richard, Panels for welding on site. The end spacing is half of the nominal spacing, i.e. after welding there is no closed up spacing at the "joints". regards, Martin. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 13:39 from: adj click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Thanks martin, i'm modelling 1983-84. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 14:06 from: richard_t
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Martin Wynne wrote:richard_t wrote:26 (C.W.R): 351mm + 25 x 702mm + 351mmHi Richard, Thanks That's the same chart in BRT3 so I guess the dimensions can be applied earlier. OT: Isn't BRT4 quite rare? I've never come across one, where as 3 and 5 can be found quite easily. (must check abe books, now I mention it.) Quick look on abe books, there is a 4th edition, but my word, how expensive they are now! |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 14:33 from: Martin Wynne
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richard_t wroteThat's the same chart in BRT3 so I guess the dimensions can be applied earlier.Hi Richard, The table in BRT3 includes dims for 25 sleepers/60ft, but omits the 26 for CWR. I can see two BRT4 on Abe Books ( Coombs, D.H. ed, 1971). Where did I put my lock and key?  Martin. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2009 18:50 from: Mark Leigh
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Thanks Martin, I knew it would be simple   Thanks also for the further info on BRT4 Mark |
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