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... topic: 2350 Hide timber numbering on templates? posted: 22 Nov 2013 13:12 from: philchudley Hi All Apologies if this is basic question or the answer is already on the forum which I have searched for an answer When printing templates full size, I find the switch labels really useful, however, for my narrow gauge templates particularly, the output of the timber numbering is rather distracting. Not too bad for straight track, but for turnouts, I get a load of labels like TR321.J2 TR321.J1 etc These overprint onto adjacent track templates rather confusing the issue. Is there are way to turn off the printing of timber numbering? I am sure that there is, but I just cannot find it. Any help will be most appreciated Cheers Phil posted: 22 Nov 2013 14:16 from: Dave Summers Hi Phil I think the answer may be output> output drawing options> timber numbering> omit all timber numbering Let us know if that still doesn't work! posted: 22 Nov 2013 15:44 from: philchudley Dave Summers wrote: ...
202. Outside Single Slip
... to do that: s4soc_b8_curved_crossover_1.png I increased the track spacing to 7ft-way to simplify the chairing at the centre just for this example. It's necessary to use the transparent option where the images overlap. Here is part of the printed template output -- a fully chaired curved B8 crossover in P4: s4_soc_b8_curved_crossover_print_1 .png Don't forget to tick the option to include picture shapes in the print output (it is off by default). There are functions on the background shapes dialog to let you twist the picture shapes into alignment with the adjacent tracks, via the notch. If you load these C&L templates into Templot as picture shapes, you can then use the printer calibration function in Templot to ensure a precision print. To obtain a hi-res bitmap image (PNG) for that purpose, use the excellent free PDF-XChange viewer program for the PDF( http://www.tracker-software.com/product... nge-viewer ), which has an Export To Image function -- you can set to 600dpi for a hi- ...
... near to the plan lines, without zooming too close, then removing the background when I need to zoom in very closely to align things, however, on occasions I do get caught out when I just overdo it a tad with the zoom and background image still in view. Also I find I sometimes need to redo the positioning of track-work, particularly in very tight areas due to not being able to initially zoom in to place the items absolutely in the correct positions, thus resulting in infringements on clearances, particularly adjacent track. Also of course it slows things down quite a lot, but then I'm not galloping off to meet any particular deadlines! I thank you investigating this problem in detail, it appears unless NVIDIA does something about their chipset nothing will change, or we will all have to use ATI cards! As I mentioned before, I have a new PC on the go which is used at the moment for only graphics work, however, will have to add Templot (for which I need another licence) and see what ...
... I construct operating point rodding, does Templot have the means of adjusting the track separation at those appropriate areas following setting the 'adjacent track centre to centre spacing' located under "Geometry" for the overall plan. With a particular project I am working on, which includes a double slip, point rodding is required to run to all the points. In one group, containing five rods, It would be good to be able to increase the track spacing to accommodate this width along this length. Hi Tim, The geometry> adjacent track centres... setting can be changed for each individual template. But you need to change it while it is the control (current) template and before creating double track or a crossover from it. Obviously you can't change the spacing between the tracks without some transitional arrangements. For this purpose you can use the slewing function on the adjoining template(s). You need to set the slew amount to match the difference in the track spacings. Here is a screenshot showing that, with the slewing zone ( ...
... . posted: 20 Feb 2014 19:05 from: Hayfield Somehow I have had 2 tries at doing a new one, but somehow I just keep getting the geometry wrong. In frustration I have altered the first try, but not yet tidied up the timbering. Please is mk 2 any good. Thanks Attachment: attach_1773_2409_JJ_P4_3_way_mk2.b ox 305 posted: 20 Feb 2014 20:06 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, That's looking very good. You will need to shorten this wing rail end to clear the wheel flanges on the adjacent rail, as shown: 2_201501_260000000.png Also, use these timbers in this area, so that the special crossing chairs can be fitted in the correct place. You can straighten them up if you wish. Omit the other timbers. The same applies with the other V-crossings -- use the timbering on the same partial template as the V-crossing. The crossing nose must be supported in the correct place on the A timber. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Feb 2014 20:22 from: Hayfield Martin ...
... bottom track you will probably want to start square-on and only change it for diamonds and slips. The special crossing chairs must fit the rails in the specified positions, and must have a timber under them. This generally limits you for the amount by which the timbers under a V-crossing can be moved forward or back. These will generally be the Y- X- A- B- C timbers*. But you can skew them a bit more or less, and shorten them or lengthen them under an adjacent track, so that a timber comes under the correct crossing chair positions for several V-crossings. Placing short timbers end-to-end, or long timbers side-by-side makes it much more difficult for them to be packed and tamped. Skewing timbers is called "twist" in Templot's shove timber functions, using the twist mouse action or the cw and acw buttons -- which rotate the selected timber by 1 degree of angle for each click, or each press on the C and A keys. ...
207. Changing Prototype
... mirror on peg" then modify that, is there an easier way? I must be missing the guide that I need for such basic stuff. Mark in Melbourne. Attachment: attach_1564_2165_Costerfield_delta _cross-over.box 230 Last edited on 25 Feb 2013 02:55 by Laidlaym posted: 25 Feb 2013 03:18 from: Martin Wynne Hi Mark, That's very good for a first go with Templot. Starting off with a scissors crossover is nothing if not ambitious. 1. You should set your desired 45mm TS centres at tools> adjacent track centres... before you begin. Then the basic procedure to create an outline scissors crossover is: 2. do> turnout road> crossover 3. put the peg on TXP (CTRL-5) 4. do> snap to peg 5. tools> make mirror on peg 6. tools> make simple crossover 7. do> snap to peg 8. tools> make mirror on peg 9. store& background That works starting with a straight or curved turnout, and gets you all the essential ...
208. TDV build #3143
... topic: 1546 TDV build #3143 posted: 20 Jun 2011 02:43 from: Martin Wynne I have now uploaded TDV build #3143 which I feel makes some significant progress: 1. the platforms should now show correctly in all output formats. You can set the end and rear edges not to show, so that platforms on adjacent templates merge into a single platform. You can change the platform colours, and the infill can be changed from solid to hatched to save ink. 2. likewise the gaunt turnouts and gauntletted track should be showing correctly in all output formats. These are a bit more specialised, the primary function being as partial templates in complex formations. 3. the export dialog is now fully working (apart from the help notes) -- output> export a file... menu item. I would be grateful if you would give this build a good bashing and report anything untoward. I am certain to have overlooked something. Try creating all shapes and sizes of exported files from your track plan, and ...
... -widening. Otherwise the wing rail flangeway gap and check rail flangeway gap will not match. regards, Martin. posted: 28 Feb 2015 12:58 from: D Foster The slip on the right in the sidings is a wonderful example of how a slip is arranged to provide trapping for sidings. :-) :-) posted: 4 May 2015 00:08 from: DM Toe%20and%20crossing.jpg linked from: http://s49.photobucket.com/user/TrogUK/media/Toe%20and%20crossing.jpg.html Adjacent crossing and switch toe. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Prototype pics> Switch close to crossing about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web site ...
210. Turntable Timbering
... ://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u =/ wikipedia/en/thumb/7 /7c/RochesterAndPittsburgh2.jpg/220px-RochesterAndPittsburgh2.jpg Tony. Last edited on 23 Dec 2011 23:13 by Tony W posted: 23 Dec 2011 23:31 from: Alan McMillan Thanks for that Tony, it looks not unlike what I've done, so maybe I'm not that far off after all! Alan posted: 24 Dec 2011 15:01 from: Tony W Hi Alan. What they have got is rather more timbers tying the adjacent roads together than you have. If you are really stuck, save that part of the track plan as a group (box file) and post it here and I will see what I can do with it. That number of broken timbers in the four foot is not acceptable. Tony. posted: 3 Jan 2012 12:06 from: Alan McMillan Hi Tony Thanks for your offer. Sorry I've taken so long to get back to you- we've got family here for the holidays from Italy and this is the ...
211. Kingsbere
... Thanks Arthur Arthur posted: 27 Jan 2012 10:01 from: Martin Wynne LSWRArt wrote: What is the difference between a catch point and a trap point in appearance? Hi Arthur, For the p.w. engineer a "catch point" or a "set of catch points" is the name for the physical object -- a switch designed to derail vehicles. Single or double points. "Trap points" is a signalling term describing one of the purposes they serve -- to protect running lines from rolling stock in adjacent loops and sidings. Trap points can be a simple set of catch points, or a complete turnout leading to a short spur or sand drag. In some designs, the turnout rail is ramped up to carry the wheels over the opposite rail instead of a conventional V-crossing -- see the Castle Cary pic in this topic: topic 179 regards, Martin. posted: 27 Jan 2012 21:23 from: Tony W Hi Arthur. As the reply from Martin and the link explains, it is largely a ...
... the rail before use; I use meths. To paint the rail afterwards, make sure you're in a comfortable position and do just as much as you can easily stand in one go. With the right brush and position it's not too difficult. I'd do the electronics and test the track thoroughly before painting. Exceptions: painting the surface of slide chairs before use (or leaving them in their natural colour if acceptable) may be a good idea; likewise, painting most of switch rails before use, and the insides of adjacent stock rails before laying the switch rail, may also be a good idea. posted: 21 Jan 2012 16:24 from: Phil O Hi Arthur If you have a look at my thread on GW special chairs on page 3 of Share and Show, you will see lots of close up pictures of the various shades of timbering and chairs plus associated crud built up over 40 plus years, some of the black is bitumen dripped from bitumen tankers. The white paper bits are the most recent additions. All the photo's ...
... points, but at least now I know what is more or less prototypical. posted: 4 Feb 2012 22:31 from: Nigel Brown The real engineers in practice had to fiddle around to get things to fit, so following that is prototypical practice! I notice there's a timber intruding on the tie-bar area of your turnout 65. Whether this actually matters depends on how you're doing your tie-bars. I'd be inclined to extend the timbers on either side of the tie-bar so that they serve the adjacent track as well, and use long timbers, suitably angled where necessary, between there and the 3-way. Nigel posted: 4 Feb 2012 23:05 from: Katier Nice spot nigel.. took me a while to find the timber but I see what you mean now. Then respective angles don't help!!! Had a fiddle with the timbers and also tweaked the 3 sidings to reduce the 'S' onto the coal drops. Can you take a look see please and tell me if they look good ...
... for a later date. Attachment: attach_1271_1730_STAIRCLIFFE_JUNCT ION_v44_7-12-11.box 354 posted: 16 Dec 2011 13:06 from: Martin Wynne Hi David, Thanks for sharing your track plan. Unfortunately your outside single slip is not buildable as it stands -- the slip switches are too close to the V-crossings. There isn't really room for an outside slip at that location. As the crossing angle is 1:7 you should be able to fit an ordinary inside slip there, without the radius being too sharp. Adjacent to that you have curved and straight tracks crossing. If you try using the TDV program, you will be able to convert those tracks to a proper irregular diamond-crossing. More about that here: topic 1731 regards, Martin. posted: 16 Dec 2011 23:38 from: Tony W Hi David. Martin's comment prompted me to down load your file and have a look. I concur. I have had a go at revising it and found a few more issues. As you say the timbering needs sorting ...
... to draw a platform edge line at the correct distance from the track and following the curve of the track? Looking forward to Xmas and (hopefully) the release of Templot 2. Hi Art, Platforms are a new feature in TDV and Templot2. You can adjust the dimensions and spacing from the track as required: 2_030552_450000000.png I have turned you purple so that you can get TDV now if you wish. The TDV download and instructions are here: topic_1500&forum_id=18 In earlier versions of Templot you can create such adjacent lines using the trackbed edges option in the generator. This has been re-worked in TDV to create the new platforms feature, see the real> platforms... menu item, and the geometry> trackbed edge menu items. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Dec 2011 11:07 from: LSWRArt Martin Many thanks for the response and turning me purple. Looking forward to starting Best wishes Arthur Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. ...
... or the addition of bonus timbers. Please don't write and tell me that you have found a bug because the timbering isn't right. I know it isn't right. It's not a bug, it's just the limit of what I have time to do at present. You can easily get the timbering how you want it by timber shoving and/or adding bonus timbers. K-crossing wing rails: the wing rail length for K-crossings can now be customized. This controls the position of the wing rail joint marks and adjacent timber spacings: 2_131851_120000000.png If the wing rail length is changed significantly from the default settings, some timber shoving will be needed, and/or the addition of bonus timbers. Click the real> K-crossing options> customize K-crossings> K-crossing wing rails... menu item: 2_131838_050000000.png 2_130727_260000000.png 2_130728_000000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 14 Nov 2011 12:49 from: Brian Nicholls Martin Wynne wrote: You can now customize the K-crossing wing rails in the latest TDV update (build# ...
... a way to set the instance between the tracks? Should I delete some tracks and work from the just generated template? 2. The inside track has timber, but no track for quite a stretch. Is that normal, or am I doing something wrong here? Thanks, Mark Attachment: attach_1168_1611_[11-08-30_220042] _Windows_XP.jpg 171 posted: 30 Aug 2011 21:23 from: Martin Wynne radiopaque wrote: Is there a way to set the instance between the tracks? Hi Mark, geometry> adjacent track centres... menu item (before making double track). You may need to increase it for sharp curves to allow passing clearance for your trains. The inside track has timber, but no track for quite a stretch. Is that normal, or am I doing something wrong here? In version 074b click the track> turnout road> long menu item. In version 091c click the do> turnout road> long menu item. However, I'm a bit puzzled because that should be set automatically when you ...
... : Well, if you will keep introducing new features Wonder why I've never felt the need to use that before? posted: 27 Mar 2012 23:28 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Martin, First apologies for not posting the Box file earlier, I had visitors very soon after posting my message. What I am trying to do here, is to make loop curves to the fiddle yard, which I need to keep as tight a radii as possible without infringing the min radius of 1000 mm. Also have allowed 58 mm adjacent track centres for clearance. These fiddle yard curves are those to the right, the remaining track-work to the left, is from the outer edge of the layout plan. One thing I would like to add regarding this matter, is whilst initially adjusting the transition (coarse adjustments) I experienced the ZIG ZAG effect when the transition was too small for the calculations. However, I overcome the effect by using the adjust transition start< Cntrl- Shift- F3 >, once the screen came back to normal, ...
... construct in Templot the access to the yard. The attached OS 2500 drawing shows the use of several diamonds to gain access from the branch platform to the yard. Does any one have any photographs showing the details of GWR diamonds from around the time? I have consulted David Smith's GWR track book and can see the likely dimensions and construction, but to me it all looks rather cramped. You will see that the acces crosses several other tracks and the layout is much more complex than I recall it when I was at the adjacent school in the '50s. Often we watched from a few hundred yards in the Reading direction but were more interested in the named locos on the up and down mains adjecent to the 3-strand fence, which was as close as we could get legally. The plan I am working on covers between the 2 mileposts either side of the station. Any advice or comments would be welcome. Jerry Attachment: attach_1132_1570_Maidenhead_yard_a ccess_westend.jpg 81 Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your ...
... having a look at your box file. The track spacing for the turnouts is still set at 44.67 mm which is standard spacing. Having studied LNER/ ER track pictures for researching my prospective layout I think the timbering would have been done as in the attached box file. The usual practice appears to be that Crossing timbers were only used as far as the special crossing chairs went and for a 1 in 9 crossing there were three after the wing rails. Any adjustments to allow timbering to fit would have been made to the adjacent plain track panels even if this meant adding an extra sleeper, but as Howard has already mentioned, there are many and varied solutions. Tony. Attachment: attach_1482_1892_LNER_crossover.bo x 284 posted: 27 Aug 2012 09:21 from: JFS Hi Tony, What would the chairing arrangements be with this form of timbering? Since both vees are fully supported on the special chairs, there would seem to be no need for the timbers to extend to support the non-existant stock rails beyond the check rails. Best wishes, Howard ...
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