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topic: 1051Changing Scales
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posted: 19 Feb 2010 19:41

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Len Cattley
 
Bracknell - United Kingdom

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I want to change my plan from 4mm to scale7, is there a way to change scales without redoing the whole plan again?

Regards

Len Cattley

posted: 19 Feb 2010 20:28

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Len Cattley wrote:
I want to change my plan from 4mm to scale7, is there a way to change scales without redoing the whole plan again?
Hi Len,

First select all the templates as a group (CTRL+A). Then go to the full gauges list (other gauges... menu item). Then select the new gauge/scale standard you want on the list. Then click the convert group button at the top of the dialog.

If you are converting between the exact gauges, e.g. from P4 to S7, the conversion should be fine. :)

For other conversions there's a bit of a snag. :( If you change the gauge:scale ratio, for example going from EM to P4, the lead lengths of turnouts and diamonds will change. You may find some slight gaps or overlaps between the templates which will need tidying up after doing the conversion. But mostly it should be ok.

This problem is worst for conversions to/from 00 gauge, where the gauge:scale ratio differs significantly from other gauges (except TT-3).

regards,

Martin.

posted: 19 Feb 2010 20:29

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Brian Lewis
 
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At the risk of upsetting Martin's 50 cent Army, could I politely point out that there would not be questions like this if Templot was equipped  with 'How to' documentation.

What is currently offered is in essence slanted the wrong way round, i.e. it explains what certain controls do, rather than explaining how to tackle a specific task.

Just thought I would point this out    :-)

Regards

Brian Lewis


Len Cattley wrote:
I want to change my plan from 4mm to scale7, is there a way to change scales without redoing the whole plan again?

Regards

Len Cattley

 


posted: 19 Feb 2010 20:52

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Brian Lewis wrote:
What is currently offered is in essence slanted the wrong way round, i.e. it explains what certain controls do, rather than explaining how to tackle a specific task.
Hi Brian,

I agree 100%.

But as I have explained a dozen times -- I do not have the resources to create what you want. There must be 1,000 different things you can do in Templot and a complete How-To manual is a 2-year task. 

Asking for it over and over again won't change this.

What you can do is use the Search facilities provided. There are no less than four separate Search options on this web site.

I went to the Detailed Site Search at:  http://www.templot.com/zoom/search_cgi.htm

I entered "changing gauge".

The results are at: http://www.templot.com/zoom/search.cgi?zoom_sort=0&zoom_xml=0&zoom_query=%22changing+gauge%22&zoom_per_page=10&zoom_and=1

and you can see that the second result is: topic 453

from which I copied my reply to Len.

If folks don't use the existing search options, I'm not convinced they would use a How-To manual.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 19 Feb 2010 23:15

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Brian Lewis
 
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Yes. But every day you show an enquirer how to perform a task. By now you must have covered the basics more than once. If there was some way of extracting these then we would find what is supposedly a two year job, has in fact almost been completed.

The text is there. What is needed now is compilation and indexing. Is that really going to be such a task?

Regards

Brian Lewis


Martin Wynne wrote:
Brian Lewis wrote:
What is currently offered is in essence slanted the wrong way round, i.e. it explains what certain controls do, rather than explaining how to tackle a specific task.
Hi Brian,

I agree 100%.

But as I have explained a dozen times -- I do not have the resources to create what you want. There must be 1,000 different things you can do in Templot and a complete How-To manual is a 2-year task. 

Asking for it over and over again won't change this.

What you can do is use the Search facilities provided. There are no less than four separate Search options on this web site.

I went to the Detailed Site Search at:  http://www.templot.com/zoom/search_cgi.htm

I entered "changing gauge".

The results are at: http://www.templot.com/zoom/search.cgi?zoom_sort=0&zoom_xml=0&zoom_query=%22changing+gauge%22&zoom_per_page=10&zoom_and=1

and you can see that the second result is: topic 453

from which I copied my reply to Len.

If folks don't use the existing search options, I'm not convinced they would use a How-To manual.

regards,

Martin.


posted: 20 Feb 2010 05:27

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Brian Lewis wrote:
The text is there. What is needed now is compilation and indexing. Is that really going to be such a task?
Hi Brian,

Often the text is not there. Or at least not in a form which can be published as a general answer. Usually it is in reply to a specific set of conditions. Or it has been rendered out-of-date by subsequent upgrades. Or the screenshot included with it is out-of-date and needs remaking. Or it needs qualifying with additional information.

But it is available anyway as it stands, using the Search functions:

 http://85a.co.uk/forum/search_templot.htm

In fact I did begin work on the very thing you are asking for -- an A-Z Index. It hasn't moved for months because it proved to be so time-consuming, but you can see what there is so far at:

 http://www.templot.com/forum_index/

I asked for some simple help in compiling that, see:

 topic 797

but only one member ever responded.

I'm really sorry that I can't be a one-man Adobe or Autodesk Inc, but there are practical limits to what I can do. The Templot Companion pages and this Templot Club forum is the best solution we can manage. You ask, someone usually answers.

If you look on forums such as RMweb and MRF you can see folks all over the world successfully using Templot and posting some amazing results. So we must be doing something right. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 20 Feb 2010 11:15

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Alan Turner
 
Dudley - United Kingdom

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Brian Lewis wrote:
What is currently offered is in essence slanted the wrong way round, i.e. it explains what certain controls do, rather than explaining how to tackle a specific task.


Which is exactly what the manuals produced for AutoCAD, TurboCAD, etc do. They don't show you how to do things either.

It's the third party books that do what you want Brian. So are you going to write a book on TEMPLOT then Brian?

Alan

posted: 20 Feb 2010 18:20

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Brian Lewis
 
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No.  Because I do not understand it.

But I did some time ago, offer to publish it.

What did  youoffer to do Alan - apart from popping up in  Martin's defence every time I ask a question? Why not offer to take over with the index? That way for once, you could make a positive contribution to this problem.

Brian Lewis.


Alan Turner wrote:

Brian Lewis wrote:
What is currently offered is in essence slanted the wrong way round, i.e. it explains what certain controls do, rather than explaining how to tackle a specific task.


Which is exactly what the manuals produced for AutoCAD, TurboCAD, etc do. They don't show you how to do things either.

It's the third party books that do what you want Brian. So are you going to write a book on TEMPLOT then Brian?

Alan




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