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posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:00 from: couzenss
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Martin, Using the Y point tuturial I have produced this OK and then added further templates to this successfully. But I have a problem in that these are running outside the printable area of the drawing pad. Note I developed the Y point on the initial start position on the Drawing Pad Is it possible to move this group of templates on the drawing pad, both from a printing point of view and also to allow further developement of this plan. Thank You Stuart |
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posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:25 from: phileakins
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Hi Stuart Probably the quickest way is to create a group with all the templates (ctrl+a) and then move the group with the mouse (shift+ctrl+f7 - or select from the Group menu which is easier!) then ctrl+y to cancel the group. I expect someone will be along later to tell you how to move the pad origin as I can't get it to work.  Phil |
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posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:28 from: Martin Wynne
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couzenss wrote:Is it possible to move this group of templates on the drawing pad, both from a printing point of view and also to allow further development of this plan.Hi Stuart, Welcome to Templot Club. Just press the \ Backslash key, answer group select all to the question, click the mouse and move them.  Press the ESC key to finish the mouse action and CTRL+Y to de-select the group. More information about this: message 8045 regards, Martin. |
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posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:35 from: Martin Wynne
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phileakins wrote:I expect someone will be along later to tell you how to move the pad origin as I can't get it to work.Hi Phil, SHIFT+CTRL+F10 mouse action to move the page origin. However, shortcuts using F10 can be a problem on some systems. If necessary use action > mouse actions: pad > move page origin menu item. What doesn't seem to be working? regards, Martin. |
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posted: 1 Dec 2010 18:20 from: phileakins
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Thanks Martin. As usual, the non-working part resides in my skull -  I looked at my short-cut printout and completely missed the F10 bit. Haven't had to use the feature in action as I use the group move (thanks for the short-cuts by the way) if I have to. Cheers. Phil |
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posted: 2 Dec 2010 17:19 from: couzenss
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Martin, The Y point I referred above was made using the Approximation method (1) I have now looked at the improvisation method (2) and I can see the aim of generating a centre line first to set the crossing ( adjust the second radii until the fine point marker (arrow 3) is exactley aligned)but I cannot workout how to achieve the first step "peg on a straight centre-line only plain track template". I only seem to get a centre line and no plain track to set the turnout against Thanks for your help Stuart |
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posted: 2 Dec 2010 17:51 from: Martin Wynne
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couzenss wrote: I have now looked at the improvisation method (2) and I can see the aim of generating a centre line first to set the crossing ( adjust the second radii until the fine point marker (arrow 3) is exactly aligned) but I cannot workout how to achieve the first step "peg on a straight centre-line only plain track template".Hi Stuart, By "peg on" I meant attach a new centreline-only template using the peg and notch functions, or by using F7 snapping in later versions of Templot (see the link below). Create a new straight plain track template (track > quick set menu item), and attach it to your starting template. Then click geometry > track centre-lines only menu item. For those who haven't followed this old tutorial, it's at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/y_symm.htm Significant revisions for later versions of Templot at: topic 603 - message 3398 regards, Martin. |
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posted: 19 Jan 2011 17:27 from: couzenss
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Martin, Thanks for the above, I am now looking to build up a track plan within a defined space and I am struggling to understand the basic information given for each turnout, in particular the radii, which radii defines the main line and which is the turnout radii. Thanks in advance Stuart |
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posted: 20 Jan 2011 11:32 from: JFS
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Hi Stuart, My quick suggestion - don't try to "build" anything yet!!! the power of Templot for me is that I don't care for example what radius a point is - you can just "bend the thing" to fit (minimum radii notwithstanding). It takes quite a while to get used to many of the features of Templot and practice is the only way to get the hang of them all. My suggestion would be to look at all the videos, demos etc and work your way through them until you can almost do any of them, at will, and in your sleep. Then have a go at creating lots and lots of "layouts" to just "throw away" - that way you won't be afraid to make mistakes. I promise you will encounter lots of questions which you will need to work your way through but if you have worked through all the demos, you will find a way. Otherwise, it is a bit hard to be working on your magnum opus and have to worry about making mistakes or stopping to ask questions. Hope that helps - it seems to have worked for me! Good Luck, Howard |
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posted: 20 Jan 2011 12:05 from: Nigel Brown click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Hi Howard Not sure I agree with your approach, certainly not for everyone. Knocking through the intial tutorial is a good way of getting the overall feel of Templot. However, one of the best way of learning to use a piece of software is to apply it to a specific project you'e actually interested in and have got the incentive to persevere with. I agree that if the project you're really aiming at is at all complex then it may be better to think up a simpler one, e.g. a simple terminus with a run-round loop and a few sidings, similar but different to the Templot one. Alternatively, select bits from your project and have a go at just producing those. I reckon this sort of approach is easier than trying to learn too much at once; there is an awful lot in Templot, and concentrating on what you actually need and adding to that as necessary may be a more pragmatic approach. Just my thoughts... Cheers Nigel |
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posted: 21 Jan 2011 16:58 from: couzenss
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Hi Howard and Nigel, Thanks for the above I guess I was getting frustrated, but your comments have helped.I have been back through all the tutorials and found a single line that has asnwered my question above.I have now started to draw out the entry to my fiddle yard and it is now making sense. Note I have made a turnout using templot templates and it was spot on Thanks Stuart |
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