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topic: 1763Electrics
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posted: 4 Jan 2012 16:11

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Trevor Walling
 
United Kingdom

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Hello,
       What is the best way to include information for electrification of track when using Templot be it for Analogue DC or DCC? I have not been able to find information relating to this and considering Templots ability to produce such stunning and complicated formations some information or guidance would be welcome.I realize some prior basic knowledge on electrification of model track  would be a prerequisite as it is a complex subject in itself.I have seen some really impressive track formations using Templot but guidance/information on electrification matters seems to be overlooked .
Trevor Walling. :)

posted: 4 Jan 2012 16:47

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Alan Turner
 
Dudley - United Kingdom

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Trevor Walling wrote:
matters seems to be overlooked .
Why would you expect such guidance in TEMPLOT?

TEMPLOT is about designing track. If you want to know about electrics suggest you join MERG.

Alan

posted: 4 Jan 2012 17:02

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Trevor Walling wrote:
What is the best way to include information for electrification of track when using Templot be it for Analogue DC or DCC?
Hi Trevor,

Templot is about track and doesn't attempt to cover electrical issues as we have to draw the line somewhere. You may like to have a look at the TRAX program which includes functions to create wiring diagrams and control panels for traditional DC cab control.

For DCC the wiring is so simple that a model railway hardly needs a wiring diagram. Each V-crossing is isolated in all 4 rails and connected to a single-pole changeover switch linked to the relevant switch drive. The most reliable way to do that is to slave a sealed relay off the point motor supply. All other rails including K-crossings are connected to the relevant system bus wire. You may choose to break a large layout into power districts, which you can do easily in Templot by means of the template marker colours.

To create a DC wiring plan from Templot you could try this:

1. In TDV export a PNG or BMP image file -- output > export a file... menu item. Select detail mode to get the individual rails.

(In earlier versions print to a PDF generator, display the PDF and do a screen capture to a PNG or BMP image file.)

Don't save in JPG format or you will get very messy results.

2. Open the image in any photo or graphics editor program, or in Windows Paint for preference.

3. Mark the rail breaks by drawing short white lines across the rails.

4. It's then easy to flood fill between the rail edges with any colours you wish, like this:

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This topic covers this subject in more detail including DXF export to a CAD electrical package:

 topic 1443


You can also create coloured diagrams by flood filling between the rails like this:

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regards,

Martin.

posted: 4 Jan 2012 17:08

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John Shelley
 
St Ciers Sur Gironde 33820 - France

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Trevor Walling wrote:
Hello,
       What is the best way to include information for electrification of track when using Templot be it for Analogue DC or DCC? I have not been able to find information relating to this and considering Templots ability to produce such stunning and complicated formations some information or guidance would be welcome.I realize some prior basic knowledge on electrification of model track  would be a prerequisite as it is a complex subject in itself.I have seen some really impressive track formations using Templot but guidance/information on electrification matters seems to be overlooked .
Trevor Walling. :)

What sort of guidance do you want?

If you want to know where to put isolation breaks in pointwork then I have some examples at
 http://www.stciers.me.uk/home/track_wiring/trackwiring.htm
If it is how to wire up your complete layout then..........

Cheers for now

John from 33820 St Ciers sur Gironde, France

posted: 4 Jan 2012 17:20

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Trevor Walling
 
United Kingdom

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Hello,
I could have worded it better.
I was simply referring to the insulation gaps in rail while using Templot similar to those showing prototypical rail joints.If it is possible It would be helpful looking at how others achieve this using Templot.I was interested to know if anyone has a method for doing this using Templot rather than by hand after printing out a template.I was under the impression Templot was for "Model" track template and "Model"layout design after all.As a member of MERG I would point out electrics and electronics are two different things.
Trevor.:)

posted: 4 Jan 2012 17:25

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Trevor Walling
 
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Hello,
I see there have been replies while I have been compiling my previous message.Thank you.
Trevor.

posted: 4 Jan 2012 17:30

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Trevor Walling wrote:
I was simply referring to the insulation gaps in rail while using Templot similar to those showing prototypical rail joints. If it is possible It would be helpful looking at how others achieve this using Templot.
Hi Trevor,

You can use the main > draw with mouse function to draw marks across the rails wherever you want them. :)

These marks go into the background shapes, so remember to save the BGS file in addition to the BOX file.

You can also do lots of coloured stuff on the sketchboard. The diagram mode infill matches any marker colours which have been set. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 4 Jan 2012 17:45

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Trevor Walling
 
United Kingdom

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Hello,
       Thanks Martin.The replies seem to come faster than I can post. :D
Trevor.



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