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topic: 1917Help needed with Tandem
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posted: 10 Apr 2012 07:50

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its_all_downhill
 
North Yorkshire - United Kingdom

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Hi all,

I have been happily using Templot for some time now and have managed to become relatively proficient with it at least to my needs, but I still have one stumbling block that has gotten the better of me at every attempt! :? Tandems....

So this Easter weekend I set out to overcome this problem. Setting up 2 laptops so that I could view on one and do on the other, following the tandem video that Martin created. I even wrote out the steps from the video so that I could see each command before using it.

I have attached my box file for your perusal and have managed to get as far as placing the third crossing on the the k crossing. Please excuse the ignorance of technical terminology as I have so far happily used Templot in blissful prototypical ignorance.

Couple of points that may help me to understand the makeup of the tandem is.. is the creation of the 3rd x-ing always going to be a A-4.5 I am not sure why this is used, or is it just arbitrary? and also I just don't seem to be able to match up the placing onto the correct peg location, it always seems to have shifted its self when I come to bind to the background template. Is there a rule to which hand of the crossing you should attach the K crossing to? Maybe I need to create more pics to explain what I mean..

Anyway looking forward to any assistance in helping me understand how to make correct tandems everytime.

Regards
Tom

Attachment: attach_1421_1917_HOmTandemRH-2.box 157

posted: 10 Apr 2012 09:20

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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its_all_downhill wrote:
is the creation of the 3rd x-ing always going to be a A-4.5 ? I am not sure why this is used, or is it just arbitrary? and also I just don't seem to be able to match up the placing onto the correct peg location, it always seems to have shifted its self when I come to bind to the background template. Is there a rule to which hand of the crossing you should attach the K crossing to?
Hi Tom,

Your tandem is looking good so far. :)

Tandems are now much easier in Templot2 and I need to make a new video. The main reason for introducing the gaunt turnout option was so that the V-crossing from a gaunt turnout could be used as a partial template for the middle crossing in a tandem.

The middle crossing isn't always 1:4.5 angle in the finish, that is just a convenient size from which to start in most cases. You then adjust the angle to fit the underlying rails. It doesn't matter what the switch size is because it gets blanked out, and using a gaunt turnout there isn't a switch anyway.

Generally it's best to use a hand of middle V-crossing which matches the smallest of the two radii. In your case that would mean using a left-hand middle V-crossing rather than the right-hand one which you have now.

I wrote a quick run-down of the new method here:

 topic 1487 - message 9841

and some notes about it here:

 topic 1567

p.s. there are no K-crossings in a tandem, only V-crossings. A K-crossing is the arrangement of rails found in the middle of a diamond-crossing, one on each side.

p.s. I'm a bit puzzled by the H0m in your .box file name, when the templates are TT-120? :?

regards,

Martin.

posted: 22 Apr 2012 12:56

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its_all_downhill
 
North Yorkshire - United Kingdom

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Hi Martin,

Apologies for the delayed thanks as usual life got in the way.. Yes the Gaunt turnout worked a treat I think.

I seem to have a mental block about K crossings! dunno why guess it looks like a K to me.. :)

Yes HOm.. Hmm senior moment? was meant to be TTm.

Once again thanks..
Tom



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