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topic: 3760Admin: Windows help obtaining attachments
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 14:34

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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I'm getting too old to go on dealing with posts this way:

 topic 3758 - message 30721

It is just too daunting to try to understand what I'm being told, and make a sensible reply.

In the next program update there will be a function in which Templot obtains files itself and loads them.

In future therefore I will  post a code number on Templot Club instead of attaching files. Entering the code number in Templot will cause Templot to download the relevant file and load it.

 
Likewise dealing with posts such as this one:

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I'm just too weary to deal with this stuff any more. Sorry about that.

In future if stuff works when tested here on both my Windows10 and Windows7 systems, then that's it, I'm done. If it doesn't work elsewhere I'm afraid you will have to sort it out yourself or ask someone else.

I also test most things in CrossOver/Wine on Linux/Ubuntu, but it's not possible to make every single thing work on there. And I can't guarantee that what works in CrossOver on Linux will also work in CrossOver on a Mac.

Martin.

posted: 8 Sep 2020 16:24

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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Martin Wynne wrote:
In future if stuff works when tested here on both my Windows10 and Windows7 systems, then that's it, I'm done. If it doesn't work elsewhere I'm afraid you will have to sort it out yourself or ask someone else.
Hi Martin
I must admit that I've had to restrain myself sometimes!  I agree with your policy totally, you can't possibly test and support every archaic version of Windows or any other convoluted method of running Templot without going insane.  On the download page, there's nothing about which version of Windows to use - could you specify an earliest version of Windows 7, running natively on a PC?  Could Templot itself even detect what it's running on and pop up an appropriate warning?

Cheers,
Paul

posted: 9 Sep 2020 12:13

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Judi R
 
Sutton-on-Sea - United Kingdom

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Most websites and/or browsers won't allow an OS earlier than Win 7 to access the internet at all these days, so that should look after itself. I quite agree with you that testing on Windows 10 should be sufficient, anything else is buyer beware.

Judi R

posted: 9 Sep 2020 13:02

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Paul Boyd wrote:
On the download page, there's nothing about which version of Windows to use - could you specify an earliest version of Windows 7, running natively on a PC?  Could Templot itself even detect what it's running on and pop up an appropriate warning?
Hi Paul,

There should be a link or path to this page with the system requirements (scroll down to Q2):

 http://templot.com/companion/for_you.php

Yes Templot knows where it is running. In the case of running under CrossOver/Wine it does show some warnings and hint messages.

On Windows it should be able to run almost anywhere on any version, providing users know what they are doing. It no longer requires an internet connection on start-up, so if older systems are not connected it doesn't matter. The most important thing is don't transfer files via a CD-ROM. Windows in its wisdom sets all files to read-only if you do that. Use a USB stick instead.

cheers,

Martin.

posted: 9 Sep 2020 18:44

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Trevor Walling
 
United Kingdom

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Hello Martin,
I think a lot of issues with windows these days are due to Microsoft trying to retain control of how their operating system is used. Being useful to users falls a long way behind in their overall scheme of things. People are able to use software and applications via a number of platforms which weakens their dominance.
Regards
Trevor

posted: 9 Sep 2020 21:34

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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Trevor Walling wrote:
Hello Martin,
I think a lot of issues with windows these days are due to Microsoft trying to retain control of how their operating system is used. Being useful to users falls a long way behind in their overall scheme of things. People are able to use software and applications via a number of platforms which weakens their dominance.
I wouldn't put Microsoft in the same league as Apple when it comes to controlling things. W10 works fine for me and I think anyone using earlier versions of Windows would be advised to upgrade to it.

Nigel

posted: 9 Sep 2020 22:05

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Martin Wynne
 
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Nigel Brown wrote:
W10 works fine for me and I think anyone using earlier versions of Windows would be advised to upgrade to it.
Hi Nigel,

I agree.

The Windows operating system has always worked fine for me, right back to Windows95. In fact it has barely changed. That's why I'm still able to use software from Windows95 days, including the Delphi5 compiler for Templot (released in 1998 and still working fine in Windows10 -- in fact better than ever). Try doing that with anything Apple.

It's the Microsoft software which is such a pain, and which I never, ever use -- Office, Word, Visual Studio, the Dot.Net Framework, Internet Explorer, and all the rest.

All the Windows upgrades since then have been in the visible froth in front of the operating system -- desktop wallpaper, XP bubblegum, Vista Aero, tablet mode, Cortana, and whatever they dream up next. The underlying operating system remains unchanged. I suspect that the original authors have long since left and Microsoft don't actually know how to change it -- look at the path bugs in the CHM Help function for example, released with Windows98, still current, and never changed since. 

cheers,

Martin.



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