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  • The Plug Track functions are experimental and still being developed.

    For an updated overview of this project see this topic.   For some practical modelling aspects of using Plug Track see Building 3D Track.

    The assumption is that you have your own machines on which to experiment, or helpful friends with machines. Please do not send Templot files to commercial laser cutting or 3D printing firms while this project is still experimental, because the results are unpredictable and possibly wasteful.

    Some pages of this and other topics include contributions from members who are creating and posting their own CAD designs for 3D printing and laser-cutting. Do not confuse them with Templot's own exported CAD files. All files derived from Templot are © Martin Wynne.

Separating template from large plan

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Trevor

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Hello,
Is it possible to separate a single template from a large plan box file and save it as a separate box file.
I would prefer to do plug track alterations/tasks on such a box file as it prevents me causing problems with the full plan.
It also makes the job quicker because working in a full plan becomes really slow with long pauses after clicking on something.
Here is an image of a template in the overall plan I would like to work on separately from the full plan.
Thank you..
Trevor:)

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Hello,
Is it possible to separate a single template from a large plan box file and save it as a separate box file.
I would prefer to do plug track alterations/tasks on such a box file as it prevents me causing problems with the full plan.
It also makes the job quicker because working in a full plan becomes really slow with long pauses after clicking on something.
Here is an image of a template in the overall plan I would like to work on separately from the full plan.
Thank you..
Trevor:)

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@Trevor

Hi Trevor,

Sure you can do that. In fact it's a basic of working with Templot. There are several ways of doing it, depending on what your end intention is.

A. The simplest is:

1. Make the template the sole member of a group.

2. Click the group > save group templates... menu item to save it in its own BOX file.



B. Another way of working might be:

1. Save your full track plan in a BOX file.

2. Copy the template into the control template.

3. Delete all the background templates. CTRL+DELETE keys or program > clear all menu item.

4. Adjust the control template as required. Maybe split it into more than one template.

5. Store it or them when done and save it or them in their own BOX file.

When needed:

6. Reload the original full BOX file.

7. Delete or wipe from it the template(s) which you no longer want.

8. Add the template(s) from the new BOX file into it.



C. If your problem is slow response of the screen and not wanting to make inadvertent changes to the wrong templates, you could:

1. zoom in as needed and draw the image boundary rectangle around the template or templates.

2. click this menu item or press SHIFT+END keys to toggle it on and off:


shift_end.png



3. Only the templates within the boundary rectangle will show and the others will be hidden. The screen response will be much faster. The top toolbar shows pale green to indicate this option is in force. All other functions are unchanged. Press SHIFT+END keys when you want to see the other templates, or hide them, again.

More about all this here:

https://85a.uk/templot/archive/topics/topic_3207.php



D.
For creating timbering bases for plug track there is an entirely different way of working which involves copying parts of your track plan into separate partial templates grouped as bricks and identified by brick colour.

Such brick templates can be grouped and dragged away from the track plan into clear space before exporting the DXF/STL file. This helps to prevent making unwanted changes to the underlying track plan. Your 3D slicer program will automatically centre them on the build area of the printer and allow you to re-arrange them there. The finished timbering bases can be aligned over the paper templates printed from your track plan in the usual way.

More about that in this topic:

https://85a.uk/templot/club/index.php?threads/extracting-a-3d-timbering-brick-from-a-track-plan.295/

That's a long topic which is out-of-date in the first few pages and is waiting for a complete re-write from me.

It has also been covered in several ZOOM meetings for which the recordings are online. Hopefully someone can provide the links and timestamps.



E. A full and comprehensive reply to your question would mean a day's work for me and I'm afraid I just don't have the time at present. Sorry about that. Just writing this quick reply has taken me almost an hour.


cheers,

Martin.
 
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Hello Martin,
Thank you for the quick reply. You have given me sufficient information to work how I want.
My memory is getting worse and carrying out things without making mistakes is getting quite common.
Separating and saving templates as separate box files will prevent me from trashing my full plan every day.
It also means I can get a separate bunch of templates onto a brick without doing the same with my full plan and makes creating timber bases and chair rafts operate at a decent speed. The lag is worse on my Linux machine so I am using one with Win10 for 3D printing tasks.
Thanks
Trevor :)
 
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